Tree Astrology

Tree Astrology

1. Find what tree you are according to your birthday. If you birthday is one of the border dates, read both the one your birth date falls in and the one before or after it depending on when it is. Ex. If you birthday is January 12, Read Elm Tree and Fir Tree. If you birthday is Feb. 18, read Cedar tree and Pine tree.

2. Go below the Chart to read about your tree.

Dec.23 to Jan.1	Apple Tree	June 25 to July 4	Apple Tree
January 2 to Jan. 11	Fir Tree	July 5 to July 14	Fir Tree
Jan. 12 to Jan. 24	Elm Tree	July 15 to July 25	Elm Tree
January 25 to Feb.3	Cypress Tree	July 26 to August 4	Cypress Tree
Feb. 4 to Feb. 8	Poplar Tree	August 5 to Aug.13	Poplar Tree
Feb. 9 to Feb.18	Cedar Tree	August 14 to Aug. 23	Cedar Tree
Feb. 19 to Feb.28	Pine Tree	August 24 to Sept.2	Pine Tree
March 1 to Mar. 10	Weeping Willow Tree	Sept. 3 to Sept.12	Weeping Willow Tree
March 11 to Mar. 20	Lime Tree	Sept.13 to Sept. 22	Lime Tree
March 21	Oak Tree	September 23	Olive Tree
March 22 to Mar.31	Hazelnut Tree	Sept. 24 to Oct. 3	Hazelnut Tree
April 1 to April 10	Rowan Tree	October 4 to Oct.13	Rowan Tree
April 11 to April 20	Maple Tree	October 14 to Oct.23	Maple Tree
April 21 to April 30	Walnut Tree	October 24 to Nov. 11	Walnut Tree
May 1 to May 14	Poplar Tree	Nov. 12 to Nov. 21	Chestnut Tree
May 15 to May 24	Chestnut Tree	Nov.22 to Dec. 1	Ash Tree
May 25 to June 3	Ash Tree	Dec. 2 to Dec.11	Hornbeam Tree
June 4 to June 13	Hornbeam Tree	Dec.12 to Dec.21	Fig Tree
June 14 to June 23	Fig Tree	Dec.22	Beech Tree
June 24	Birch Tree

3. Choose your tree to learn more about yourself:

Apple Tree (the Love)
Of slight build, lots of charm, appeal and attraction, pleasant aura, flirtatious, adventurous, sensitive, always in love, wants to love and be loved, faithful and tender partner, very generous, scientific talents, lives for today, a care free philosopher with imagination.

Ash Tree (the Ambition)
Uncommonly attractive, vivacious, impulsive, demanding, does not care for criticism, ambitious, intelligent, talented, likes to play with its fate, can be egoistic, very reliable and trustworthy, faithful and prudent lover, sometimes brains rule over heart, but takes partnership very serious.

Beech (the Creative)
Has good taste, concerned about its looks, materialist, good organization of life and career, economical, good leader, takes no unnecessary risks, reasonable, splendid lifetime companion, keen on keeping fit (diets, sports, etc.).

Birch (the Inspiration)
Vivacious, attractive, elegant, friendly, unpretentious, modest, does not like anything in excess, abhors the vulgar, loves life in nature and in calm, not very passionate, full of imagination, little ambition, creates a calm and content atmosphere.

Cedar (the Confidence)
Of rare beauty, knows how to adapt, likes luxury, of good health, not in the least shy, tends to look down on others, self-confident, determined, impatient, wants to impress others, many talents, industrious, healthy
optimism, waiting for the one true love, able to make quick decisions.

Chestnut Tree (the Honesty)
Of unusual beauty, does not want to impress, well-developed sense of justice, vivacious, interested, a born diplomat, but irritate and sensitive in company, often due to a lack of self-confidence, acts sometimes superior, feels not understood, loves only once, has difficulties in finding a partner.

Cypress (the Faithfulness)
Strong, muscular, adaptable, takes what life has to give, happy content, optimistic, needs enough money and acknowledgment, hates loneliness,passionate lover which cannot be satisfied, faithful, quick-tempered, unruly, pedantic and careless.

Elm Tree (the Noble-Minuteness)
Pleasant shape, tasteful clothes, modest demands, tends to not forgive mistakes, cheerful, likes to lead but not to obey, honest and faithful partner, tends to know-all-attitude and making decisions for others, noble-minded, generous, good sense of humor, practical

Fig Tree (the Sensibility)
Very strong, a bit self-willed, independent, does not allow contradiction or arguments, loves life, its family, children and animals, a bit of a butterfly, good sense of humor, likes idleness and laziness, of practical talent and intelligence.

Fir Tree (the Mysterious)
Extraordinary taste, dignity, cultivated airs, loves anything beautiful, moody, stubborn, tends to egoism but cares for those close to it, rather modest, very ambitious, talented, industrious uncounted lover, many friends, many foes, very reliable.

Hazelnut Tree (the Extraordinary)
Charming, undermining, Very understanding, knows how to make an impression, active fighter for social cause, popular, moody and capricious lover, honest and tolerant partner, precise sense of judgment.

Hornbeam (the Good Taste)
Of cool beauty, cares for its looks and condition, good taste, tends to egoism, makes life as comfortable as possible, leads reasonable, disciplined life, looks for kindness, an emotional partner and acknowledgment, dreams of unusual lovers, is seldom happy with his/her feelings, mistrusts most people, is never sure of its decisions, very consciences.

Lime Tree (the Doubt)
Accepts what life dishes out in a composed way, hates fighting, stress and labor, tends to laziness and idleness, soft and relenting, makes sacrifices for friends, many talents but not tenacious enough to make them blossom, often wailing and complaining, very jealous, loyal.

Maple Tree (the Independence of Mind)
No ordinary person, full imagination and originality, shy and reserved, ambitious, proud, self-respect, hungers for new experiences, sometimes nervous, many complexes, good memory, learns easily, complicated love life, wants to express.

Oak Tree (the Robust Nature)
Courageous, strong, unrelenting, independent, sensible, does not love changes, keeps its feet on the ground, person of action.

Olive Tree (the Wisdom)
Loves sun, warmth and kind feelings, reasonable, balanced, avoids aggression and violence, tolerant, cheerful, calm, well-developed sense of justice, sensitive, empathic, free of jealousy, loves to read and the company of sophisticated people.

Pine Tree (the Particularity)
Loves agreeable company, very robust, knows how to make life comfortable, very active, natural, good companion, but seldom friendly, falls easily in love but its passion burns out quickly, gives up easily, many disappointments till it finds its ideal, trustworthy, practical.

Poplar (the Uncertainty)
Looks very decorative, no self-confident behavior, only courageous if necessary, needs goodwill and pleasant surroundings, very choosy, often lonely, great animosity, artistic nature, good organizer, tends to philosophy, reliable in any situation, takes partnership serious.

Rowan (the Sensitivity)
Full of charm, cheerful, gifted, without egoism, likes to draw attention, loves life, motion, unrest and even complications, is both dependent and independent, good taste, artistic, passionate, emotional, good company, does not forgive.

Walnut Tree (the Passion)
Unrelenting, strange and full of contrasts, often egoistic, aggressive, noble, broad horizon, unexpected reactions, spontaneous, unlimited ambition, no flexibility, difficult and uncommon partner not always liked but often admired, ingenious strategist, very jealous and passionate, no compromises.

Weeping Willow (the Melancholy)
Beautiful but full of melancholy, attractive, very empathic, loves anything beautiful and tasteful, loves to travel, dreamer, restless, capricious, honest, can be influenced but is not easy to live with, demanding, good intuition, suffers in love but finds sometimes an anchoring partner.

Skanda (Kandasamy) is patron God of Astrology

Skanda (Kandasamy) is considered as the patron god of astrology by many.

By different schools of astrology different gods are considered as the patron god of astrology. Patron god of astrology as per variosu schools are - Skanda (Kandasamy) as per Arsha school, Brahma as per Jain and Yavana schools, Siva as per Tantric tradition, Brahma as per Vedic culture (patron god of Tropical astrology.

There are also traditions/schools that consider Surya, Vishnu or Sakti (Mother goddess) as the patron god of astrology.

Kerala tradition is the continuation of Arsha tradition and considers Skanda as the patron god of astrology.

Skanda Hora, the first authentic text of Ancient Astrology was supposed to be taught by Skanda (Kandasamy) to Brahma. In the ancient past onwards the worship of Skanda (Kandasamy) was popular thoughout India, Skanda (Kandasamy) temples are found throughout India.
* Kartikeyan is the war god of many cults.
* Skanda (Kandasamy) is the war god of Abhira tribes.
* Murugan is the traditional god of Dravidian people of South India, especially Tamilnadu.

(Note that Siva, Vishnu, Skanda (Kandasamy) , Brahma and all co-exist. It is the state of mind.)

The following website had useful resource of articles http://www.murugan.org/research/index.htm

Ramayana and Mahabharata

On the basis of the detailed astrological information on Lord Rama's birth, as given in the puranic Adhyatma Ramayana, a later day text composed by Vedavyasa, it appears to me that Lord Rama's was born about 9300 years ago. The Horoscope given in Valmiki Ramayana is true for BC 157, based on places etc.

Further here is mention of the Ramayana events in the Mahabharata and the reverse is not seen, which proves that the Ramayana events occurred before the events of the Mahabharata. Simple. No linkups or hookups. Why bothers, other than get the best out of them? Well significance does not create any flutter.

This might be true. The mention of Ramayana events is present in Mahabharata and the mention of Mahabharata events are present in Ramayana. Thus based on this kind of reference we shall not reach any such conclusion.

OK, now the facts..... Kanhai avatar. Criss cross. Timeline?

Ganesh Chathurthi

The Sanskrit word for Ganesha means one who is the Isha (Lord) of the Ganas (Angelic army). He has incredible intelligence and his strategies are matchless. He was created in the mythological time by the mother Goddess from her own body. Not knowing who he was, the Angelic army fought with him and Ganesha killed everyone who came to fight.
Finally Lord Siva himself interfered and beheaded Ganesha. Later, knowing that he was the son of the Mother Goddess who is his own wife, Siva revived Ganesha. He placed an elephant head on Ganeshas body and made him the Lord of his Divine army.
This Ganesha's birthday falls on wednesday while the moon transits the sign Virgo signifying the sixth house of zodiac. The sixth house signifies the wealth derived from service, profession, business and the status of operations in an organisation. Moreover the planet Ketu, whose overlord is Lord Ganesha is placed in the 11th house to virgo signifying total gains and ultimate blessings to the rituals done. This rare cosmic imprint occurring during Ganesh Chaturthi will help you to realize all material dreams. The star on the day is Chitra which is the second star to Ganesha's birthstar Hastha, indicating absolute blessings for all wealth creation.

Astrology and Maya gives GOD

Astrology is said to be an incomplete knowledge; science only gives us half truth. There are instances and incidences which astrology doesn't understand and science will not comprehend. Can we explain all behaviors, mechanics, and principles of common or uncommon occurrences through astrology and ancient knowledge, or we have to look up to modern science, or get into the fields of quantum physics or metaphysics, mystics or just leave it to God? Or else, it is time we learn to integrate all existing knowledge as there must be a governing principle, a reason behind every happening.

There are a trillion such things we observe and marvel at everyday. Suppose we talk about distance. We know that distance is measured in metres, kilometers, even light years… but what is distance? We see no concept of distance when we compare the astrological impacts of sun and moon. When we hold the nakshatras as responsible for our innate being, we don't see how far they are from us. The same applies for two local bodies, people on the planet, living near or far, each one must be impacting the other. We all understand the positive-negative vibes, the interactions, the telepathy, the love and hate between the people. Astrologically, we try to find these meanings in the planetary positions at birth of the two bodies. How and why do we relate to each other in the manner we do? This is one such question, among the many, we ask everyday.

When West was sufficiently intrigued, including Einstein, it came up with Quantum Physics and metaphysics which dealt in the 'may be' or 'could be' of science.

Einstein told us that there was no concept as distance. All objects intersect each other. Any action simply becomes an interaction because of this intersection of two objects. This becomes identical with the coordinate system extending infinitely and astrology giving us a basis for non-local interaction with heavenly bodies. This also becomes the basis of individual equations then.

What do our bodies represent? The theory says that all existence is in the form of sub-space particles in the sub-space plasma. The laws show that force, field, and energy are geometric properties directly related to quantum geometry. The sub-space particles demonstrate the necessary measures, conditions, constraints and conditions which explains wave-like behaviour and the particle like behaviour. Hence we explain the interaction between two people. When we remain in particle form, we do not interact from a distance. When we assume wave form, distance is lost.

Einstein says: A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. The true value of a human being is determined by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive.

Physical objects are not in space, but these objects are spatially extended. Effectively, matter, space and universe are one and the same thing, which leads us to the theory of relativity. Theory of relativity in one sentence would mean that time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter. The Metaphysics of Space and Motion and the Wave Structure of Matter (WSM) explains this necessary connection between matter, forces, space and time, and thus how matter is connected across the universe.

In his famous equation outlining the equivalence of mass and energy, Einstein proved that the energy in any particle of matter is equal to its mass or weight multiplied by the square of the velocity of light. The release of the atomic energies is brought about through the annihilation of the material particles. Light-velocity is a mathematical standard or constant not because there is an absolute value in 186,000 miles a second, but because no material body, whose mass increases with its velocity, can ever attain the velocity of light. Stated another way: only a material body whose mass is infinite could equal the velocity of light.

Einstein had mathematically proved something which our enlightened masters had experienced and demonstrated many a times in the past. The ancient yoga philosophy seemed to be saying much the same thing about reality as the emerging Quantum Theory. I quote here from one of the masters who I love, admire and remain devoted to. I am sure many of you would know him.

"I sat on my bed in the lotus posture. My room was dimly lit by two shaded lamps. Lifting my gaze, I noticed that the ceiling was dotted with small mustard-colored lights, scintillating and quivering with a radium like luster. Myriads of pencilled rays, like sheets of rain, gathered into a transparent shaft and poured silently upon me.

At once my physical body lost its grossness and became metamorphosed into astral texture. I felt a floating sensation as, barely touching the bed, the weightless body shifted slightly and alternately to left and right. I looked around the room; the furniture and walls were as usual, but the little mass of light had so multiplied that the ceiling was invisible. I was wonder-struck.

"This is the cosmic motion picture mechanism." A voice spoke as though from within the light. "Shedding its beam on the white screen of your bed sheets, it is producing the picture of your body. Behold, your form is nothing but light!"

I gazed at my arms and moved them back and forth, yet could not feel their weight. An ecstatic joy overwhelmed me. This cosmic stem of light, blossoming as my body, seemed a divine replica of the light beams streaming out of the projection booth in a cinema house and manifesting as pictures on the screen.

For a long time I experienced this motion picture of my body in the dimly lighted theater of my own bedroom. Despite the many visions I have had, none was ever more singular. As my illusion of a solid body was completely dissipated, and my realization deepened that the essence of all objects is light, I looked up to the throbbing stream of life-trons and spoke entreatingly.

"Divine Light, please withdraw this, my humble bodily picture, into Thyself, even as Elijah was drawn up to heaven by a flame."

This prayer was evidently startling; the beam disappeared. My body resumed its normal weight and sank on the bed; the swarm of dazzling ceiling lights flickered and vanished. My time to leave this earth had apparently not arrived…"

We owe a lot of our understanding to these enlightened souls... about our universe, both physical and biological as well as those unseen forms which we witness at times, such as in our dream state and altered states of our being.

So far, I had been discussing 'How'. Still there is a big question of why? For this I would like to quote again from the same master,

"To surmount MAYA was the task assigned to the human race by the millennial prophets. To rise above the duality of creation and perceive the unity of the Creator was conceived of as man's highest goal. Those who cling to the cosmic illusion must accept its essential law of polarity: flow and ebb, rise and fall, day and night, pleasure and pain, good and evil, birth and death. This cyclic pattern assumes a certain anguishing monotony, after man has gone through a few thousand human births; he begins to cast a hopeful eye beyond the compulsions of MAYA."

Horary versus natal Astrology in KP System

"This branch (Hororary Astrology) of science is mysterious, perfect, wonderful and most useful. After thoroughly understanding the principles , one can offer correct, clear and precise predictions without any confusion. This helps the astrologer to confirm what prediction he has to give by using other methods (such as Reading Birth/Natal Charts etc.) which, when explained, will convince and satisfy the consultant." KP Reader VI

Personally I do believe that Hororary astrology can be taken as a supportive tool, to confirm any matter indicated in the natal chart, provided the"urge to know" is present during Hororary prediction.

As found in a group on the net.

Predictive Astrology Techniques

Predictive Astrology Techniques:

Techniques for Preparing for the Future and Understanding the Past

Most astrologers use a variety of techniques to "look into the future" of an individual. There are plenty of techniques used to make predictions for—and plan for—the future. Here, we share our preferred techniques—transits, secondary progressions, solar arc directions, solar return charts, and more. Transits, for example, challenge and pressure us to make changes in our lives and in our attitudes toward our lives. They bring us joy and sometimes sorrow—they pull out parts of ourselves and "force" us to face them. Secondary progressions reveal our cycles of maturity and growth, showing us how our personalities unfold.

Transits & Cycles

Our natal chart is very much like a snapshot of the sky at the moment we took our first breath. We carry our natal chart with us through the entire course of our lives, even though the planets and luminaries continue their movement and cycles. However, as the planets and points move ahead, they form special relationships to the planets and points in our individual natal charts.

So, for example, if my Sun in my natal chart is at 25 degrees Virgo, and Saturn is moving towards that same degree of Gemini (25 degrees of Gemini), Saturn is said to be transiting square my natal Sun. Similarly, if Saturn is in 25 degrees Gemini, I can look in my natal chart to see where Saturn would fall in terms of house position. If that degree of Gemini is found in my 3rd house, then I would know that Saturn is transiting through my 3rd house.

It is not our aim here to offer tutorials on the technical aspects of transits. We will assume a basic knowledge of the technique so that we can move ahead to interpretation of transits.

Transits act to stimulate what is already there! In other words, they highlight and trigger parts of our own psychological make-up.

Outer Planets First, Inner Planets Later

With transits, it is generally best to first look at the outer planet (slower-moving) transits and cycles in order to get an overview and a "context" before refining our predictions with inner planet cycles and transits. Here are some general guidelines:

1. Determine "where a person is at" in an overall achievement sense by looking to where transiting Saturn is by house. Read more about Saturn Transiting Through the Houses.
2. Note whether transiting Uranus, Neptune, or Pluto are making major aspects to the individual's natal Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Ascendant, or Mid heaven.
3. Determine Saturn's transits.
4. Look to the Jupiter cycle—where is transiting Jupiter by house, and what aspects does it make to natal planets?

Working "outside in" is best because this way one gets a broader overview of the longer-lasting transits and conditions. This provides better context for the refinements that the inner planet transits offer us.

Outer planet transits affect us in large chunks—they can be active before the transit is exact by aspect, but we have seen the following: Many times an outer planet transits our natal point once by direct motion, moves forward and then retrogrades back over that point, only to turn direct again and pass that same natal point for the final time in that cycle. Generally, the seeds of the transit are being sown in the first part of this cycle (when the transiting planet first "hits" our natal point), and the "problem" or crisis reaches a head during the middle part of this cycle (when the transiting planet retrogrades back over the point). Finally, the situation is resolved around the time the transiting planet moves over our natal point for the final time in the cycle. Note: we often "see" or "feel" some sense of imminent resolution when the transiting planet goes direct after its retrograde period, before it passes again over our transited point. If our experience of the transit has been a crisis, then we feel marked release at this point. This is likely because a planet going direct after a period of retro gradation is symbolic, in general, of resolve.

In order to understand overall trends and movements in a person's life, you may also consider the outer planets' transits through the houses: Jupiter transits the houses, Saturn transits the houses, Uranus transits the houses, Neptune transits the houses, and Pluto transits the houses.

Inner Planet Transits: Power Days, Cycles of Activity, and More

Here are some interesting points to take into account:

1. When transiting Moon conjuncts the natal Sun (monthly): These are generally considered "power days".
2. The 2-Year Mars Cycle—Energy Cycle. When transiting Mars nears the sign of your natal Mars, your personal energy increases. Energy wanes as Mars moves away from the sign of your natal Mars and is at its lowest when it transits the opposing sign. For example, if your Mars is in Sagittarius, as transiting Mars moves from Gemini through to Sagittarius, your personal energy increases until it reaches a peak at Sagittarius. When Mars transits the signs following Sagittarius, personal energy decreases until it reaches a low when Mars is in Gemini.
3. When the New Moon contacts a natal planet or point: This suggests a renewed focus in that area of life for a period of approximately one month. If, for example, the New Moon conjuncts our natal Venus, we will experience a "fresh start" and a new perspective in Venus matters (such as love and money). It is also illuminating to interpret the placement of the New Moon by house.

Moon eclipse on August 16

A partial eclipse of the Moon will take place on August 16. The entire eclipse will be visible in most of Europe and Africa, and partially visible in South America and Australia. During a lunar eclipse, the Earth comes between the Sun and the Moon, casting its shadow on the Moon. Eclipses always come in pairs, and this eclipse follows the dramatic solar eclipse of August 1.

Eclipses are like big exclamation points and since this eclipse is in Aquarius, a sign that is focused on the workings of the larger group or community, expect confusing leadership situations, power struggles and sharp words. In addition to the heightened emotions of this full Moon, an active pattern of planetary aspects also adds drama to this eclipse. The placement of Aquarius in your personal chart will define how it impacts your life over the next five months.

If Aquarius is in your First or Seventh House, the eclipse will signal a period of personal development and growth. And if Aquarius is in your Seventh House, the focus will be on growth and development in your relationships.

An eclipse in the Second House will always make you more aware of your attachments: the things that you believe that you cannot survive without. But an eclipse in the Eighth House highlights your responsibilities to others: both physically and emotionally.

When occurring in the Third House, you will be forced to confront fears and your communication style. And in the Ninth House, you will be forced to consider the bigger picture of your life. How do you want to grow and expand?

In the Fifth or Eleventh House, the focus on the next five months will be on issues of individual expression and group participation. In the Fifth House, the eclipse will stir up the creative urge, or represent changes in relationships with children or with casual romances. Eclipses in the Eleventh House can often indicate changes in relationships with our peers and friends.

If Aquarius occupies your Sixth or Twelfth House, the focus over the next five months will be on your health -- both physical and spiritual. Eclipses in the Sixth House often make you aware of your physical needs and illness, while in the Twelfth House, they highlight religious or spiritual needs.

Freedom and Astrology

Evolution is clearly described in esoteric literature as a process of seven stages. In the Trans-Himalayan tradition, these stages delineate the development of man, and also the development of consciousness in man. However, a broader frame of reference uses these seven concepts within the bounds of evolution as a whole. For this I draw heavily on THE REFLEXIVE UNIVERSE by Arthur Young(the inventor of the helicopter, and a mathematician).

According to this theory of evolution, its easy to see how all things evolve in the same seven stage way. Dr. Young identifies the seven stages of evolution ending with the current modern man as follows: 1:Light, 2:sub-atomic particles, 3: atomic, 4:molecular, 5:Plant, 6:animal, and 7:man. As in astrology, each of these has keywords defining the stage: 1:potential, 2:binding, 3:identity or form, 4: combination/separation, 5:growth/reproduction, 6:mobility, 7:dominion.

Each of the stages has a sub set of 7 stages using the same framework from start to finish: potential, binding, identity, combination, growth, mobility, and dominion.

And finally, Dr. Young uses a concept from Quantum physics to describe the quanta of action(please refer to Planck and Quantum physics for this) in regards to its degree of uncertainty: degrees of freedom. The greatest degrees of freedom take place at the potential stage and at the completion stage.

For example, the fourth stage(also called the Turn) is the at 0 degrees of freedom level. This is represented by determinism, classical physics and the first time combination takes place. It represents that stage where the LAWS of combination are final. The sub stages start with the basic molecular combination of metals(the metallic bond), evolve to salts(an ionic bond), to non-functional compounds(a covalent bond), to functional compounds, to non-functional polymers, to functional polymers(proteins), and finally to the final stage, dominion(shown by DNA and viruses.) In the sub stages, the functional compound is the one with 0 degrees of freedom.

Now.....why have I brought this up. Simple! Everything that is evolves. Light evolves, a planet evolves, people evolve, even theories evolve.

Astrology evolves!

Each stage of any evolution is appropriate for the entities of that stage. In physics, classical physics is appropriate and useful for the stages above the molecular, but in the three stages below it, classical physics doesn’t work. However, the physics that does work, Quantum Physics, doesn’t work in the stages above the Turn.

For some time I have perceived the immensity of the contribution of psychological astrology. However, I have had trouble with two parts of it. First of all, I don’t believe that the concepts of what I must now call classical astrology are to be thrown out with the advent of psychological astrology. Secondly, I believe that astrology is evolving and its falls within the bounds of a sequence of growth, but I couldn’t perceive a sequence that puts psychological astrology and traditional astrology within the sequence, and by doing so defines the process itself.

I can do that now.

Astrology’s evolution might be perceived as beginning with the first stage. Potential with ancient man looking up at the night sky and seeing the stars and planets and at the Sun in the day time......but thinking nothing more. At this stage there are 3 degrees of freedom; the space time of this has no length, there is no symmetry in the theory.

At Stage Two, there is some semblance of connection, but no combination or order. Man sees the stars, perhaps catalogues them. They are assigned to Gods, and names are divined for them. The spell of the image of the Sun, Stars, Planets, reigns,and hence the Illusion.

At Stage three, there is only one degree of freedom left. Astrology is beginning to become codified and an actual discipline called astrology has developed. Order has created elements, and elements that were though to be part of the whole in stage 2 are no excluded. This is early western astrology in the CE and BCE times. Many elements of combination that are seen in Stage Four are not known.

At Stage Four, astrology has developed extensive rules and determinism. This is the classical astrology of Horary. There are no degrees of freedom. There is no uncertainty in action: Follow the rules, get the result. Baroque music, classical physics fits the time. Traditional astrology is still mostly stage 4, though in the sub divisions it is moving toward Stage Five. Mundane Astrology is stage four.

At Stage Five, a dramatic change has taken place. The Turn in Stage Four has developed a new identity and the concept of a degree of freedom returns. Astrology now has uncertainty at the higher turn of the spiral. And while its the same astrology, it now now longer just deals with events and laws of action, but with persons. Persons become the center, and the person’s needs become the center. The fifth stage astrology of is the astrology of Noel Tyl, and others who perceive astrology from how it affects people's needs and desires.

Stage Six astrology transcends person centered astrology altogether in what is called Esoteric Astrology. No personal horoscopes are provided as it describes the evolution of entities above the human stage(which is stage four in another schema).

Stage Seven astrology is an astrology as yet unformed in human consciousness, and may be beyond human consciousness altogether.

AT EACH STAGE, the concepts of the previous stage fit into a whole that is wider than before. But at each stage the stage yet to come is incomprehensible until it arrives. Psychological Astrology, a Fifth Stage Astrology, can understand and use the traditional and horary astrology, as its position within the Fifth Stage evolves. But strictly within the bounds of Fifth Stage astrology, the use of such stage four terms as benefic/malefic, or the use of such techniques as secondary progressions are possible, but are not as streamlined when using the strictly Fifth Stage Technique(such as Solar Arcs). However, when dealing with the astrology of events, which is a Fourth Stage astrology subject, the use of these techniques, and phrases is wholly appropriate.

The Lake of Consciousness

~ The Lake of Consciousness ~

A channeling by my Spirit Guide.

In understanding the role that consciousness plays in our lives here
on earth, and the struggle we have trying to find ourselves, I give
you the story that my guide gave me written in my words…but of
course it will never be as good as he gives to me.

Let's pretend that you are a body of water, connected to all of the
water in the world…what one drop knows the rest knows as that is the
property of water.
Let's say you are a lake, still, deep, calm, and beautiful. You are
rained on, you give up steam in the heat, you flow into the rivers
and rivers flow into you. You mix your essence over and over again
with all of the waters of the world, giving of your experiences and
receiving of theirs. You are part of the ONE in your environment. An
no matter what happens, you can always return to yourself.
You are able to quench those who thirst, and to refresh those who
are tired, simply because it is you and you are part of the ONE, you
are able to do so..

When it comes time to have another experience, you decide that the
Earth plane might be fun and challenging. So, everything gets
arranged, you are excited and gung-ho about it all. You listen to
the advice that is given you; you pay attention to those who have
been to earth before. You might even think you can do a better job
of it. They know this and just smile and walk away. They learnt
their lesson being here, now it's your turn.
Maybe you're an old hand at this and decide it is time to take on a
much bigger challenge. Whatever you decide, and where ever you are
on your path, you are told wisely that all you have to do is t
remember that we, the spirits, will be watching and waiting for you
to hear us. We will be making contact at all times, you will never
be alone. All you have to do is remember that the biggest part of
you is still here, is still in constant communication with the All,
and so with us. Did you listen? WELL

You can't bring all of you here, so you bring to this plane, a drop
of yourself-- an essence of the whole. It is your lifeline to back
home…it is your pipeline.

THEN

You're here. Nothing seems to be going well. God doesn't seem to be
listening to you. You have shouted at him, begged him, cried to him,
and even prayed to him….and NADA.
SO

Is there a God? Is there life after death? Where do we go when we
die? Why do so many people have sorry lives? Why is my life so
messed up?

Eventually you stop asking, and start looking. ………
And "Bingo!", you have gotten your little plumber out of hiding, and
now he can start to work on unplugging that pipe that has been
connecting you to your higher self all of this time. That's the plan…
so what can go wrong?

When you start looking for yourself, you are asking to be connected
again.
Therefore you have forgotten that you already are!.
If you have forgotten; then that little drop of essence, your
current consciousness has forgotten.
Imagine what is going on in that part of you that has been living
with you in this life for all of these years. It has always been
there for you, taking you to all the places you have been, dictating
to you how you should act, speak, see, etc.
Now you that drop of essence want to find your HIGHER SELF.
Equation…we get conflict. Conflict because we are looking for what
is already there, conflict because we know there is something else,
but we don't know what, and conflict because we are saying to our
that little part of us, ii is not enough.
Conflict generates great fear. Fear comes from what we do not know
and do not understand.
Fear will always stand in our way. Fear will always react with a
variety of expressions: violence, doubt, derision, and the ultimate
one, anger.
If we is push too far and are unable to cope with the fear, our
little essence, our current consciousness will withdraw.
We will generate within ourselves what we currently call
schizophrenia, a splitting off of itself; a splintering of the soul.

The answer is so simple it is mind boggling. LOVE. Love yourself.
Love all of yourself. Love the parts you consider ugly, nasty, and
horrible. Love the feelings that you don't want others to see. Love
the habits that you keep under wraps. Love the addictions and the
compulsive behaviour. In fact, love all that you are, and make your
self feel safe and comforted.
When we love just who we are then the connection can and will be
allowed to grow. With growth comes understanding. With understanding
comes the letting go and the trusting of yourself. With the trusting
of yourself comes the divine love that shares and experiences all
that is. In doing so, you are teaching that little part of you how
very important it truly is. You teach it that it is not separate,
but a part of the whole.

Final foot note: While here on the earth plane, it is absolutely
impossible to bring all yourself into your physical body. Yet by
being connected to all that you are, no matter what the strength of
that connection, you are experiencing the divine source. No matter
how dim a light, it is still a light.

PS: Take only what resonates with you and leave the rest behind...

Astrology and Numerology

Numerology is doing wonders for certain people.

People like to change names etc.. to get better results.

But, think this as a solid proof - personal experience - instead of going by Ramesh, and when I write with name Ram, mostly it is recognized. This is where pen names hold good. Most writers, keep their favourite persons name (typically) a female name goes well. So in order to make the name sound well in writings, they will write well and influence is good.

I recently gave a prediction based on Hororary to a person (typically I don't write it) on getting a job, after 5 long years of own small education biz etc. He got the job on the predicted date and is happy. Also during the course of prediction, I had suggested based on the placements, Mars in his 10th house, and based on his star with Jupiter effects - the name of employer - to be good with "A" or "I". His first employer was starting with "A" and worked for long. Now he got a new employer starting with "I". I will post a detailed analysis of stars and possibilities soon.

Mostly names are kept in South India based on stars and starting letter, which also covers the family interests - grandfather/grandmothers/family deity name etc, where as some parts of North, it goes by family tradition, and a surname.

Astrology in cold water, as per Scientists!

Read the interesting article here...

Astrology in cold water, as per Scientists!

But how do they explain about accurate future predictions?

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Gold for India today! August 11th 2008

After 1928, 1932, 1936, 1948, 1952, 1956, 1964, 1980 a Golden Moment!

For India astrologically No 3 is good. Venus in action and controlled by Mercury, give individuals pinnacle achievement. If you see Viswanathan Anand winning days, would coincide with these.

Gold with Venus and Mercury power for India!

Abhinav Bindra does India proud by winning a Gold medal today August 11th, 2008.

The time 9AM onwards, had a super Venus and Mercury combination, and astrologically good for India.

Please check the ruling planets for Aug 15th, 1947, 12.01 AM, the formation time of India and declaration.

Clearly you can see that Venus and Mercury had a predominant position with its placements in the 10th house for name and fame. Jupiter is Lagna clearly shows about the country, to gain heights soon.

Dr B V Raman has said Venus in power showed that periodically, Women would be in power for India (Swathi birth star)and Mercury in power showed that we would be very good in calculations and computations etc.

What is so special on 08-08-08?

Hello All

Astrologically it has no significance. Even though some of my numero-astro friends have told me about starting business today! Saturn power they say.

Read something interesting, even though I don't buy in the Mayan theory. Who is Kalki Bhagwan (other than God?).

http://vijayashankar.blogspot.com/2008/08/what-is-special-about-08-08-08-other.html

Regards
Ramesh
http://indiarealestventure.com

Dymock and Hororary

This is what Dymock says. (I have edited out a bit, and all the graphics)

Hororary Charts answer specific questions. Whenever an issue of some significance arises in your life, and you have been pondering your best course of action, make a note of the date and the exact time and set up a Chart for the location where you are at the moment. This will mostly of course be your place of residence but it could also occur when you are travelling.

The basic rules are—

   1. The Ascendant Ruler and the Moon represent the questioner (you, or somebody else who asks the question).
   2. The person, thing or issue you are inquiring about is represented by the Ruler of the appropriate House, for example:
          * 7th House for spouse, partner or another person not in any special relationship to you. Opponents and competitors.
          * 5th House for a child or lover, 11th for a friend or client.
          * 4th/10th House for a parent or boss.
          * 3rd House for short trips and moving house.
          * 8th House for money from others, pensions, government grants, etc. 2nd House for earnings.
          * 4th/7th Houses for changing residence.
          * 10th House for a question re your career and job.
          * 9th House for tertiary education or travel. Foreign parts and people.
          * 2nd House for an article lost.
          * 6th House for illness, 8th for surgery, 12th for hospitalization.
   3. Planets in the Houses concerned are also important, especially if close to the Cusp.

      You can see that the Houses follow their standard meanings. Aspects between the Rulers or occupiers of the Houses concerned show the answer. A trine or sextile gives a favourable outcome, an opposition or square an adverse issue, difficulty and struggle. Conjunctions can be either, depending on other factors, but mostly favourable when linked to Jupiter and Venus, unfavourable when linked to Mars or Saturn.

      Additional significators that help interpretation are the planets themselves: Sun and Saturn for the father: Moon and Venus for the mother: Mercury for children and small items: Moon for the home and family, Jupiter and Venus for luck and good fortune: Mars, Saturn, Uranus for accidents; Neptune both joy and disappointment; Pluto both destruction and resurrection.

      The Moon's function is especially important. Its applying Aspects indicate things to come, its separating Aspects represent what has already happened.

Astrology and Moods

Whether during the warm, expansive summer months or in the colder days of winter, children come home from school eager to engage in fulfilling activities.  If you have children, the Moon sign in your child's astrological chart is a good clue to the kinds of activities he or she is most likely to enjoy.  As adults, our Moon sign signifies how we can contact our "inner child" and thus feel most emotionally satisfied.

The Moon sign in the astrological chart represents our day-to-day habit patterns, our security needs, and our family history.  It represents the predominant energy of our early environment and, in particular, the energy we became accustomed to in our interactions with our mother.  Often, the Moon in the chart is placed in the sign position of our mother's Sun sign.  For example, a person born with an Aries moon may have a mother born under the Sun sign of Aries.  Even when this Sun-Moon linkage does not exist between a mother and child, the Moon sign will symbolize an energy with which we feel familiar.

If you don't already know your Moon sign, it's best to have an astrological chart cast for the precise time, date and place of your birth.  The time of birth is important because the Moon moves very quickly in relation to the planets, and sometimes even an hour or two can make a difference in the sign position of the Moon.  The Moon gives a kind of "emotional weather report" for the conditions present at birth.  The days on which the Moon travels through our birth Moon sign each month may be especially good times to nurture ourselves in the ways that feel best to us.

Here are some suggestions for satisfying children and the "inner child" through the various types of Moon signs.

The FIRE SIGN Moons (Aries, Leo, Sagittarius) are physically active and outgoing, and thrive on adventure, risk and creativity.  Don't keep these Moon signs home for long!  Typically generous and gregarious, these Moon signs can also be self-centered and need some arena in which they can lead the pack, run the show, or be the star.  Leadership training, athletic activities, nature hikes, activities involving metals and machinery, drama classes and travel can be nurturing for these self-reliant Moons.

ARIES MOON

Strengths:  Positive, enthusiastic, celebrates life.
Weakness:  Needs to learn to listen to others.
Compelling personal need:  To make new beginnings.
Recommended activities:  Martial arts, auto racing, competitions.

LEO MOON

Strengths:  Glamorous, magnetic, regal.
Weakness:  Needs to learn to ask for help.
Compelling personal need:  To be admired.
Recommended activities:  Acting, modeling, outdoor activities.

SAGITTARIUS MOON

Strengths:  Broad-minded, has friends from many cultures.
Weakness:  Needs to learn to notice details.
Compelling personal need:  To have adventures.
Recommended activities:  Hiking, canoeing, geography.

The EARTH SIGN Moons (Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn) are practical, stable and reliable.  They prefer predictable conditions and measurable results.  Children with these Moon placements respond well to structure tasks and knowing what is expected of them.  These Moons enjoy nature and the outdoors, money management (even the young entrepreneur at the lemonade stand is probably a Capricorn), and developing skills that will improve their ability to master the physical world.  Their senses are usually highly developed, and they value what they can see, taste and touch.  Work, career and money issues often play a major role in their experience of emotional security.

TAURUS MOON

Strengths:  Reliable, stable, sensual.
Weakness:  Needs to learn to be flexible.
Compelling personal need:  To build something lasting.
Recommended activities:  Stocks and bonds, pottery, gardening.

VIRGO MOON

Strengths:  Discriminating, hard-working, health-conscious.
Weakness:  Needs to learn to relax.
Compelling personal need:  To be productive.
Recommended activities:  Nutrition, puzzles, repair work.

CAPRICORN MOON

Strengths:  Ambitious, responsible, determined.
Weakness:  Needs to learn to relinquish control.
Compelling personal need:  To be recognized through work.
Recommended activities:  Camping, politics, rock climbing.

The AIR SIGN Moons (Gemini, Libra, Aquarius) are the social directors or "Chatty Cathys" of the zodiac.  These Moon signs thrive on social interaction and exchange of ideas.  They like to join groups, form partnerships, and explore anything new that piques their interest.  Verbal exchange (fax, phone, Internet) makes their world go around.  They thrive on good conversation.  Bookstores, libraries, academic pursuits, games and puzzles, short trips to local places, and interactions with friends and neighbors give them the emotional familiarity they need.

GEMINI MOON

Strengths:  Versatile, curious, quick-witted.
Weakness:  World's shortest attention span.
Compelling personal need:  To experience variety.
Recommended activities:  Writing, radio, auto mechanics.

LIBRA MOON

Strengths:  Romantic, refined, harmonious.
Weakness:  Needs to see beyond appearances.
Compelling personal need:  To enjoy beauty.
Recommended activities:  Music, dancing, art.

AQUARIUS MOON

Strengths:  Open-minded and friendly to everyone.
Weakness:  Needs to develop emotional depth.
Compelling personal need:  To experience freedom.
Recommended activities:  Groups, television production, science.

The WATER SIGN Moons (Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces) are nurturing, introspective and deeply emotional.  Like the fire signs, they can be self-absorbed and subjective in their view of the world.  They need plenty of private time to dream and enter their inner experience, perhaps bringing out what they find through art, poetry, photography, and other expressive media.  These Moon signs enjoy nurturing others through gardening, cooking, counseling, health care, and parenting.  Activities such as swimming, bathing and water sports help bring the water Moon signs emotional equilibrium.

CANCER MOON

Strengths:  Protective, family-oriented, loving.
Weakness:  Needs to learn to master emotions.
Compelling personal need:  To be close with loved ones.
Recommended activities:  Swimming, compiling family or city histories, collecting things.

SCORPIO MOON

Strengths:  Psychic, regenerative, creative.
Weakness:  Needs to learn to let go.
Compelling personal need:  To investigate the depths.
Recommended activities:  Photography, scuba diving, mystery stories.

PISCES MOON

Strengths:  Compassionate, intuitive, kind.
Weakness:  Needs to learn discipline.
Compelling personal need:  To daydream.
Recommended activities:  Fishing, painting, meditation.

Because the Moon sign indicates our hunger for life experience and the way we feed our "inner child," Moon sign compatibility between two charts is an important indicator of potential domestic and relational harmony.  Fire and Air sign Moons tend to relate well to each other; Earth and Water sign Moons find sympathy in each other's natural day-to-day way of being.  Yet sometimes we learn the most from those whose Moon sign is not naturally compatible with our own.  Knowing and appreciating our own Moon sign and that of our children and those we interact with on a regular basis can contribute, one relationship at a time, to a more satisfied and peaceful world.

A forwarded mail, 27th August 2008, Two Moons Hoax

27th Aug 2008 the Whole World is waiting for......... ... Planet Mars will be the brightest in the night sky starting August. It will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye. This will Cultivate on Aug. 27 when Mars comes within 34.65M miles off earth. Be Sure to watch the sky on Aug. 27 12:30 am (Wednesday). It will look like the earth has 2 moons. The next time Mars may come this close is in 2287. Share this with your friends as NO ONE ALIVE TODAY will ever see it Again.

So you fell for reading above Urban legend? Read more here...

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_mars_encounter.htm

Non astrological post! (Sangalph - A Short Story)

Interesting story, that I have read. Heard from author that a Hindi producer has shown interest in this.

Sangaplh - A short story!

NADI ASTROLOGY AND ASTROLOGERS

NADI ASTROLOGY AND ASTROLOGERS



Dr B.V. Raman, in his auto-biography has on occasion mentioned some of his encounters with Nadi Astrologers. Since his observations are quite informative we shall examine what he has to say-
"Grandfather had given me an idea of Nadigranthas and how a Nadi astrologer living near his residence (in 1905 or so) in Linghi Chetty Street had earned a lot of money but had died in dire poverty! I was a bit anxious about Rajeswari's health [his wife] as she was in andvanced state of pregnancy.



Acarya took me to see two Nadi astrologers- -one I think was a Nadar on the Royapettah High Road , and the other, a Mudaliar at Egmore. Mudaliar's Nadi--Markandeya Nadi--impressed me. He took my Rasi chart and asked me to come the next day. It was said to be a dialogue in Tamil between sages Vasista and Viswamitra with Goddess Parvati as the moderator. Thiruvenkatacharya translated the reading. Of all the Nadis and Bhrgu Samhitas--more than 50--I have seen and examined so far, it is only the Markandeya Nadi that has proved to be fairly accurate. For the information of my esteemed readers I give below the Nadi reading:"



[The following reading given to Dr Raman is of the typical Nadi format, which is rather laconic and subject to sudden digressions. ]



"After describing the planetary positions, the Nadi proceeded thus:'Birth place is a city in Karnataka and birth in mother's place; house facing south; delivery attended by an old dark woman, another lady and a widow; native is eldest. Lord of ascendent Saturn in Venus sign aspected by Jupiter-fair complexion lean body, ordinary hieght, polite, modest, sympathetic, business-like, attentive, no kapatam, has good longevity, acquires wide knowledge and will become an impressive speaker. He will have frequent travels. Helpful, he will become happy and surpasses his grandfather. Because Mercury is lord of the 5th, he becomes a mathematician and acquires high qualifications in astrology. His father's case is different. The native is associated with his grandfather and will earn much reputation. The lord of the 2nd is strong aspecting the Moon and Saturn. He will have high education and become a Pandit. Danger in Saturn Dasa will be overcome and he will live up to Ketu Dasa.'



All of a sudden the tenth house was taken up by way of a dialogue between sages Vashishta and Visvamitra.



Visvamitra: The lord of the 10th is in the 7th with the lord of the 8th. The lord of the 7th is in the sign of the Moon and the Moon is in the 4th with the lord of the 1st, aspecting the 10th. Lord of the 2nd and 11th is in the 10th. Therefore he will have no fixed profession. He will do agricultural operations and he will get some profit from agriculture and printing. He will enter government service in education and banking line. He will face much opposition in business.



Vashishta: Lord of the 10th Mars and Mercury, lord of the 5th, and Venus lord of the 4th and 9th, well placed and Jupiter in the 10th aspected by the lord of the Lagna suggests much success in Sastras. He will become learned in Astrology and mathematics and will take to granfather's profession. He will study planets, become learned, helping mankind by knowing several Sastras. He will have a virtuous occupation. He will publish books, will own cash, will have a prosperous career and will become famous, will earn international reputation and will add to the family dignity. Saturn is strong. He will have many rivals but will always hold his own. Jupiter aspects Saturn. He will edit books and develope a profitable business. Jupiter Dasa will be good for business. He will break fresh grounds and will become an institution. In the latter half of Jupiter he will become widely respected. In Saturn Dasa he will lead an organization having many subordinates. He will secure a prominent place and uninterrupted prosperity. He will have vaksiddhi. He will not enter government service but will have association with kings. He will lead an independent life, brooking no subordination. Jupiter and Saturn are Yogakarakas



The reading ended abruptly. Most of the future predictions given in 1935 have turned out to be correct. I feel this is the only Nadi which has proved satisfactory. Acarya said that he was happy because the Nadi had predicted a bright future for me.



The next encounter was with the Nadar who claimed to be in possession of the Agastya Nadi. When Acharya introduced me to the Nadi owner he examined a few leaves and said that the direction in the Nadi was that we should come the next day. When we went there at the appointed time, the Nadi man examined my right thumb carefully and noted what he called an important line on it. On the basis of this line he read from the palm leaves the planetary positions at my birth giving the nakshatra and the tithi -->[4]<!--[endif]-->, I was born in. This performance of his in tracing my horoscope on the basis of a line on the thumb almost stunned me. When I asked the Nadar to explain the method which enable him to find out the chart, Acharya said in English, 'Don't ask him such questions. He will never give out the secret.'



The next morning when we went again to meet him he read out the first House giving out a general delineation. One of the specific predictions made was that within a week my wife would give birth to a son who would have madhyayu or medium life. The first part of the prediction was fulfilled as a son was born with 10 days.



The Nadi leaves mystified me. What exactly was the basis of this? How were they able to reveal the past events with such astounding accuracy? Why were they kept secret? These questions agitated me for a long time until in 1953, a Nadi--to be specific Guru Nadi--gave me the answer. I shall have much to say about Nadi granthas in due course."

Next, Dr. Raman briefly decribes his visit to a Bhrgu Sastri in Benares :



"...Srikanta Sastry led me to the astrologer's house in a by-lane in the old city. As we entered the house, the Samhita reader fairly advanced in age and supporting himself with a staff, greeted us with a smile and took us to a room stacked with soiled manuscripts arranged in a disorderly fashion. After preliminary enquiries and recording my birth details, the pandit asked me to meet him the next morning which we did. Unlike the majority of Nadi and Samhita readers he appeared to be learned. He took out a few notebooks from out of a bundle and slowly read what purported to be my chart. The reading was in simple Sanskrit, and the clarifications if any were provided by Sastry, who himself was a scholar in Sanskrit and knew astrology well. The readings began with obeisance to Ganesha, Siva, Visnu, the Sun and the Moon.



The reading was said to give the out losses and gains, happiness, sorrow, longevity, etc...



It began with the mentioning of my visit to the Samhita astrologer with Sasty and my unsuccessful handling of Acarya's horoscope [the beginning of the chapter describes how Dr Raman is embarrassed by his poor showing with Acarya's horoscope, the Acarya mentioned is different from previous Acarya] with the consoling remark that I had yet to master Jyotisha and gain divine grace. Then it said, giving the chart meaning the Sun is in Cancer, Lagna is in Aquarius and Jupiter is in Scorpio--what is the yoga and what are the results? A summary of the reading is herewith given for the information of the reader:



'He will become a sreshta. He will unravel the future of persons. He will go into the subtleties of the Sastra. He will become world famous by his writings and will be engaged in planetary calculations. He will be bold dignified and a man of character. He will be the author of many books. He is born in Bharat, in the south, having the name Venkata.' The Samhita went on: 'His mother died in the second year. His wife whose name commences with ra is born in Makara lagna. He will continue his studies till he is 23 years old. He will become famous by the art of grahagananas. Fortunes increases day by day when he will be 35, 38, 48 and 58. Because of past karmas, in the years 32, 34, 40 and 52 difficulties occur. There will be the loss of a relative and fear from illness. At 48 and again at 58 he will have foreign travel, respect, felicitation and he follows pure karma. The world acclaims as a pious soul.'



[The next part of the reading gives interesting information on Satyacarya a very famous astrologer who is revered by the likes of Varaha Mihira. There is very little known about Satyacarya so this helps to fill the lacuna. This part gives the clue of how to become a great astrologer, humility.]



He took out another leaf and read: "Satyacarya was a great pandit in astrology. He had studied everything that was available in astrology but still he felt he was lacking something. He did penance for twelve years. Lord Siva appeared and wanted Satya to ask for a boon. Satyacharya explained that though he knew astrology, he felt he was defficient in something. Granting a boon Lord Siva said, 'Hither to you were a Jyotishi (astrologer) but from now on you will be a Daivajna (knower of the unknown).' Immediately Satyacarya had a vision of all future births and patterns of planetary combinations and he compiled his famous Satya Samhita. This young man will also become a Daivajna. Let him practice humility." It indeed was an eye opener to me that knowledge and humility must go together.



[Lord Krsna defines the neccessary components of knowledge in Gita 13.8-12, of which the first two are 'Humility and pridelessness, ...' something we could all cultivate more of.]



The sun was about to set when the pandit abruptly stopped reading further. He wanted us to meet him the next morning.



I was curious to know the basis of the Samhita reading rather than get a reading myself. To the several questions put to the pandit about Samhitas, he said: "These ancient Samhitas were written by sages thousands of years ago." Stopping him abruptly I remarked:"The Samhita in your hands appears to have been written on some sort of parchment-like paper. How come you claim for it an age of thousands of years?" He calmly answered. "The originals were written probably about 2,000 years ago. They were copied from time to time by a select band of disciples who knew the secrets of Samhitas. The one in my possession could be about 300 years old." I examined the leaves carefully and thought that they could not be earlier than 100 years. But the grantha characters could not be deciphered by me. He took us to another room where a number of old notebooks, said to be different samhitas, had been kept in a ramshakle wooden cabinet.



Thanking him for the reading, we took leave of the Pandit. Of course we could not meet him again as I had to leave for Calcutta the next night.



The forcasts, which ended abruptly, did not say anything about longevity, children etc. But whatever it said about the future, including the name and Lagna of my wife, could be considered to be fairly accurate differing by a year or two in the matter of foreign travel, etc ,Next in chapter 25 Dr. Raman briefly mentions that he was introduced by a distant relative to one Srinivasacarya, the possessor of the Budha Nadi. He said,"I had a number of meetings with him. Srinivasacarya claimed infallibility for his Nadi but I had reservations. Budha Nadi had a peculiar method of interpretation. "



He continues this discussion of the Budha Nadi in chapter 27.



"Nadi astrology is a unique system of horoscopic interpretation but most Nadigranthas available on the market are unreliable so far as the future predictions are concerned. The basis of Nadi astrology was revealed to me by a Nadi itself in 1952-53 and I shall elaborate on this at the appropiate time.



Some of the Nadis are too vague. Under cover of astrology they claim to deal with the future while in reality no astrological discussion is found. The emphasis is more on past births which can not be verified. [Note--As a rule of thumb any astrologer (or pyschic etc.) who dwells a lot on past lives should be avoided. The reason being that they probably know little of astrology and focus on something that cannot be verified thus hiding their ignorance.] The same individual gets different details from different Nadis, so that at best they could be treated as of only academic interest. To enable my readers to have an idea of the approach of the various Nadis, I have no option but to refer to the delineations given by them in respect to my own horoscope.



According to its owner Srinivasachari, the approach of the Budha Nadi which is the subject matter of this chapter, has a distinctiveness of its own. My contact with him continued till about 1958-59 when he was leading a miserable life in a choultry at Mysore . When I first met him in 1936, he was overbearing and dismissed me as of no consequence. He even refused to tell me anything about my horoscope. But life's experiences, pleasant and unpleasant have their own lessons to teach. If an arrogant person in dizzy heights is thrown into the abyss he may realize the transitory nature of name, fame, position, wealth and influence and understand that widom consists in developing from the beginning humility, love ...By 1958, Srinivasachari had become completely mellowed and he was the personification of humility, friendliness and helpful attitude.



From the series of meetings I had with him from 1936 onwards I gathered the following information about Nadis. Nadi astrologers in general are in distress mentally and financially in the closing periods of their lives. One should never own a Nadi as it would only spell disaster for him and his family. He never revealed why he came to such a conclusion. He had married three times. Excepting the last wife with whom he was then living, the first two had died under tragic circumstances. He felt that many of the popular Nadis were based on kshudra mantras [This means a system of propitiating lower base entities. These entities are much below the level of devatas, it is basically what we would call black magic.] and unless the ordained practices were correctly followed the guiding spirit would curse the possessor of the Nadi! He cited the example of an astrologer named Narayana Sastry who hailed from Chikmagalur. Sastry was rigorously practicing a certain kshudra mantra to get 'control' over the deity associated with Sani [Saturn]. If he had succeeded in this, he would have been able to correctly say the past and foretell the future accurately upto one year from the date of consultation, just on the basis of a Rasi chart. In the last stage of his penance, when Sastry was reciting the mantra, standing knee-deep in the village tank, he saw a beutiful young woman who came to wash her clothes there. Her charming looks disturbed him and his attention was so diverted that he could no longer concentrate on the image of the deity in his mind. Soon after Sastry lost his power of speech and the use of a leg due to paralysis, although he had never obtained the boon of prophecy for which had worked so hard.



Of course, I cannot vouchsafe for the authenticity of this story, but could not also disbelieve Srinivasachari who in the last years of his life would not lie. He was of the firm opinion that the propitiated [kshudra] devata controlling the Nadi would do harm to the reader.

[*********** ********* *****In 1982 I met Srinivasachari' s disciple R.G. Rao....]





[Following this Dr Raman describes a typical Nadi reading but this time from the Budha Nadi, since the introductory format is similar to others I will skip it and go to more interesting parts. Some of which will be incomprehensible unless you are a more advance student of astrology but I will include it for the sake of completion. I shall paraphrase to reduce the volume of material.]



The Nadi said:" the horosope has Sannyasa Yoga because the lord of lagna and 12th, i.e. Saturn is in nichamsa [debilitated navamsa!]. This is due to a sapa (curse) in the family for the last 17 generations. The curse will disappear at age 47." The reason for the curse is as follows. Seventeen generation ago while a young student of his guru the native accidently injured the head of the guru's wife causing her great pain. Even though the wife interceded on behalf of the student still the guru cursed him.



I found that the deliniation was marked by several contradictions. My lagna was given an Purvabhadra 2 and the Navamsa lagna as Kumbha, a mathematical absurdity. When I question this contradiction the reader picked up another leaf and exclaimed: "These calculations are according to Agastya. However, the exact pada of the lagna 'as revised' is Satabhisa 3."



In a desultory mood the Nadi then went on a different tangent by saying " that this grantha was written 2400 years ago by a disciple of Agastya, 48th in succession, on the basis of Tattvasastra. The total number of tatvas is 108. The 46th refers to rasayana sastra (chemisty?) and the 96th to Vedanta. Budha Nadi authors knew all the tattvas while Varahamihira wrote his book without a knowledge of the Tattvas. In Bhrgu Samhita 2646 horoscopes are given with permutations and cominations. In Budha Nadi for each Rasi 1800 horoscopes are given. [For a total of 21,600 charts.]



Then the Nadi made more remarks that were even less relevant. "Kaliyuga 5001 corresponds to Sarvari--actually this will be Vikari, 1899 AD--saw a dispute among the Saurastrian Brahmins. They divided themselves into three sects and the reader of this Nadi belongs to one such sect. Saurastra belongs to Cancer."



The Nadi continued: "The native in his previous lives completed study of the 96 Tatva--Vedanta. When he was studying the 45th there was obstruction. In his past life he was taught only the 48th and not 46th and 47th because of his birth in an apasavya star, Mrgasira 1. When the 48th was about to be taught the native died by snake bite. Because the serpent (Rahu) is in Guru's house (in his chart), Agastya could not save him." These details were all in Tamil poetry, sonorous to listen to but sometimes contradictory and not bearing on the horoscope.



[Now begins the reading. This will be over the heads of beginners but I have included it for the sake of completeness and also to give the flavor of how a Nadi reading actually goes. They are not perfect and mistakes are noted. They also give some interesting rules for more advanced astrologers. ]



Now begins what purports to be the reading. The Nadi fixed the time of my birth as 34 ghatis, 1 vighati....Accordin g to this 'Nadi' "as Mercury is in the 6th--Mercury is actually in the 7th [Dr Raman is pointing out the mistake of the Nadi regarding his chart]--longevity stops with Mercury lord of the 8th. His longevity will be 74 years 7 months and 16.5 days." According to this Nadi I should have died by March 24, 1977. [As of this writing, March 20, 1994 Dr Raman is still alive and well.]



"In Navamsa Mars aspects the 4th, 2nd, and 3rd and is in the 8th. Therefore the native didn't die in Mars Dasa." [I have always maintained that aspects are applicable in Varga charts while some of my esteemed collegues like Santanam disagree. Here we see that the Nadi says to consider aspects in Navamsa!]



"Jupiter lord of the 2nd and 11th is in the 10th and aspects the 2nd. If he is in the first Amsa, his mother becomes a widow. The lagna is in the 95th pada." At this stage Goddess Parvati is said to intercede and say: "Then we should take Mrgasira 1. This is the 17th pada. The 63rd from this is Kalagnana. If there were planet in Kalagnana he would have died after marriage. As the lords of the 12th and the 6th are in one sign, the former behind the latter and as there is no mutual aspect between them in the Navamsa, the native has purnayus or full term of life. The Nadi suggests a planet in the 84 pada from Saturn's position and the 97th pada from the Moon gives Balarishta. [We should explain that Pada is equal to a quarter nakshatra which in turn is equal to one navamsa. There are 27 nakshatras so 27 X 4 = 108 padas, this is the same as 12 signs X 9 navamsas = 108 amsas. Balarishta means death in childhood.] "Venus is lord of the 4th he is in Makha 3, i.e., the 39th pada. The 83rd from this is Vainasika. Saturn is in Rohini 1. When Saturn enters Rohini 2, the mother dies. The natives point of death (Ayus) is in Hasta 2. When Maraka [death inflicting] planets trasit this point the person dies."



Then there are several statements followed by a reference to grandfather' s death. [Dr. Raman's grand father B. Suryanarian Rao was a great astrologer and teacher to Dr Raman.] "When Saturn enters Uttarabhadra 4, grandfather dies on a Friday. Before the native completes Jupiter-Jupiter period every property will have been lost and the grandfather will not have a single penny to give. The native will have all his children born to him before he is 42 years of age."



The mode of directions employed appears to be based on the transit of major planets in certain padas as reckoned from the padas in which the lagna and the planets are situated...



[The text then proceeds with further reading about family using more prosiac principles of astrology. Dr Raman now observes:]



The general description of the future year-wise was vague and has not proved quite correct. But the delineation about the birth of children up to the time of consultation was fairly accurate. There was again a jump giving some information not bearing on the chart. The Nadi explains: "There are 84 Rishis. The 6th is Kasyapa. The 72nd is Agastya. He has 48 pupils. The last one is named Shesagireesa is the compiler of the Budha Nadi. He has made a thorough study of Tatwa sutras."...



[The Nadi continued to go on and speak about his future fame, travels, lectures and his destination after death (Rishimandala- -abode of the sages). The Nadi also spoke about his family life, wife, and children. His concluding remark about the reading from Budha Nadi was.]



"Upto this point [in the delineation of the wifes chart], the delineation is fairly accurate. Then there is a reference to the children's prospects, etc. But they are all off the mark and are not relavent."



Later in the book Dr Raman discusses his meeting with V.S.N. Sastry an astropalmist from Rajahmundry who claimed to have a Bhrgu Nadi. Here Dr Raman makes an interesting observation about himself.



"My interest in the Nadi's continued unabated until the sixties, when I decided not to waste time or money on hunting after the Nadis."



However at this time his interest was not yet satiated so Dr Raman had a reading and he gives us a sample of what it is like. I shall not reproduce it as it is similar to others in style though with out jumping here and there as did Budha Nadi and others. He notes that this Nadi has also failed in predicting his death as he is still alive today well after the period of predicted death. He concludes by saying: "The Bhrgu Nadi, inspite of...can be considered in accuracy next to the Markandeya Nadi about which I have previously written."



OTHER OPINIONS



In the pages of Astrological Magazine from Bangalore , edited by B.V. Raman, there are monthly discussion on various astrological topics. The subject of Nadi astrology will occasionally come up. Here are few insights on Nadis from the AM.



"It is a well known fact in Astrology that the old palm leaf bundles going by the name of Nadi Granthas expound even minute details like a person's name, parent's name,...In this type of delineation, Nadi Granthas follow a unique predictive system of their own, not to be found in the traditional and scientific system of astrology.



This has led some to speculation amongst astrologers that the Nadis are based on the works of some spirits or Ksudra Devetas which, by some unknown technique, read the thoughts or minds of the native, where the past and present upto the moment of consultation have been already recorded and they pass it on by communication to the Nadi astrologer. Further wieght is added to this theory by the fact that the future predictions in Nadis rarely prove successful and these speculators argue that since the future is unknown even to the native, this happens so. [Sic, the spirit thus can't read his future.] These Nadis and Samhitas have a charm and fascination over people. But a lot of information on the techniques of prediction can be had from a study of some of the readings given in them..."

It seems that N. Sundara Rajan doesn't believe in the 'speculations' about the Nadis as being very convincing other wise he would not be interested in astrological information gleaned from them. My own teacher Sashi Kanta Jain and his sons, were also accused of having a karna pisacha an evil spirit who would whisper the secrets into their ears about the past, present and future of an individual. The reason being that Sashi Kant Jain had an astounding reputation as an astrologer, even able to know in advance what the client would ask, and then answer the question before the question was asked. Ignorant people, not knowing the principles of astrology might think it was due to black magic simply because they were unable to conceive of how he could know such things.



This of course doesn't mean that there aren't persons who use ksudra devetas to read minds or know the future. There are as we have seen from B.V. Raman's testimony.

Next V.A.K Ayer, a noted scholar, points a few of the astrological foundations of the Nadis.



"Let us be clear in our premise. What we call Nadi literature for this inquiry are those written in Sanskrit, e.g., Dhruva Nadi, Canda Kala Nadi and Bhrgu Nadi. [He doesn't include Nadis in other languages such as Tamil.]



...the word Nadi appears to be used in the sense of a small unit of time or its corresponding arc of the zodiac, which, however, varies in its measure with different schools and among the Nadi-amsas in one school itself in some cases.



Secondly the prefixes in the names of the schools or systems appear to give a clue to the parameters employed for predictive purposes as will be presently demonstrated. The word Candra Kala for instance is a samgnya for 16; so is Dhruva, a synonym for 5, as it means Siva, Brahma, etc. It has been found that the Candra Kala Nadi uses the Parasarian shodasa (16) vargas and the Dhruva Nadi only uses five planetary vargas [of the 16] for their parameters.. .



The first impression one gets [of the Dhruva Nadi] on its perusal is that (i) its treatment is thoroughly scientific; (ii)systematic and (iii) based on well understood principles of astrology. Some of its basic tenets are often repeated in the text readings. Here they are:



'Lagna is three-fold:first, based on conception; second, emergence of the head and third, the body touching the earth. All three should be taken into account for prediction.'



[The first is called pre-natal epoch. This is only possible to know in a society where sexual practices are seen as sacred and thus regulated by purificatory rites such as the garbhodhana samskara. In this age of licentious, sensuality and instant gratification it would be the rare person who could determine which sexual act would be responsible for the conception of a child. What to speak of know the eact time of conception or in actual terms the depositing of the sperm by ejaculation into the womb. Because of these difficulties prenatal epoch is not done. Though it is easy to calculate when the head first emerges, still for all practical purposes it is the third criterion bhupatana touching the earth, i.e. seperation from the mothers body, which is taken as the time of birth by almost all astrologers. ]



'One should predict the future according to Vasishta (Samhita); the past by Gargya and the present by Jaimini.'



Dhruva Nadi makes good use of planetary Samayas too for prediction; Samayas, as is well-known, differ in different systems. It is not yet determined what school it belongs to.



[Samayas-also called Samanyas in my astrology program-are a method of determining the mood of the planets by taking into account which nakshatra a planet is in, counting it from lagna etc. There are various formulas to calculate this. These will be explained JYO201.]



'One suffers physical and mental discomfort when Saturn transits the longitudes of the lords of the 6th, the 8th and the 12th, and he afflicts those Bhavas that he tenants and aspects.' [By longitude is meant exact degree within a certain orb. Transits as an analytical method will be covered in JYO301.]...



HOW THE NADI AMSA IS CHOSEN IN DHRUVA NADI



Having thus had a quick glance at some of the basic principles of prediction in this Nadi, we shall examine the parameters employed in the choice of the Nadi-amsas. Fortunately Vasishtha invariably defines each Nadi-amsa in the the body of the prediction. Let us take some examples: Says he of Kusumamsa in Aries Lagna:



Kusumamsa falls in Aries Rasi, Sun's Hora, Leo Drekkana, Cancer Navamsa and Jupiter Trimsamsa. -->[12]<!--[endif]--> Degree wise they are respectively [in the sign of Aries] 0o to 30o; 0o to 15o; 10o to 20o; 10o to 13o 20' and 10o to 18o. The common factor among them is 10o to 13o 20'. This then is the range of Kusumamsa Nadi and five vargas are employed. While predicting, this Nadi-amsa is considered in two halves, the first and second, where horoscopes with different planetary configurations are delineated.



In a similar way the Candra Kali Nadi chooses its Nadi except that instead of using only five vargas it employs all sixteen of the shodasavargas. By such method a total of 150 Nadi-amasas are found in Candra Kala Nadi, each of them with its own name. [All of which are different synonyms of Durga.]



These Nadi-amsas are counted in the given order in movable signs; in reverse order in the fixed signs signs and from the 76th onward in the dual signs.



The first Nadi-amsa is called Vasudhamsa 0o to 0o 12'; Vaishnavi from 0o 12' to 0o 24', etc.



In Candra Kala Nadi too each Nadi-amsa is divided in two halves and different horoscopes with different planetary configurations are delineated.. .In nomenclature the names of the Nadi-amsas in Druva Nadi have a flavour of the Parasariyan genre whereas in Candra Kala Nadi they are typically Keraliyan as can be seen from paralle works like Skanda Sarirekha where similar names are given to rekhas (lines) all over the body..."



In this article just cited Sri Ayer has unearthed some valuable clues about the Nadi system. As can be seen the Nadis, even though having been extant for thousands of years, a still posing a serious puzzle to the astrological community. A lot of interest has been generated of late in these texts and recently R. Sathanam has published a translation of Candra Kala Nadi in three volumes.



Before leaving the Nadis I want to introduce a little controversy concerning Bhrghu Samita Panditas of Hoshiarpur. The following is a article by Surinder Awasti of The Times of India News Service. It appeared on January 13, 1994.


ASTROLOGY MAKES THEIR FORTUNE.



HOSHIARPUR:

About half a dozen families here are making a fortune out of fortune telling. Their only asset is that they possess the mythical Bhrgu Samhita which is said to be a compilation of all possible human horoscopes, including those of people yet to be born.



The soiled pages of the Samhita are siad to reveal the name, parentage, and the number of siblings-as wells as their names in past and future lives. Remedial measure are also suggested to forestall misfortunes and calamities.



Apparently, there is no shortage of clients, but these families are engaged in feud, each claiming to have the more authentic version of the Samhita.



One clan comprises two grandsons--Mr. Ratish Kumar and Mr. Ram Kumar--and two daughters-in- law Mrs Sneh(a) Amritan and Mrs Satish Janardan--of the late Pandit Des raj, a Sanskrit scholar. He reportedly found some leaves of the manuscript with a raddiwala (?) in Jhelum district, now in Pakistan . Aware of its immense value, he purchased the entire manuscript, weighing over 40 maunds (about 1600 kg).



The other clan, comprising Mr. Ved Praksh and three related families, dismiss this story. They say the manuscript on bhuj patra was located in Nepal during the reign of Akbar. About 100 Sanskrit scholars were then sent to copy the Samhita. Over a period, the leaves of the precious almanac were divided among the hiers, passing on to the present generation.



NOT ANCIENT: The unsubtantiated story explains why the manuscript is in different handwritings and the paper is only a few hundred years old. According to legend, the sage Bhrigu compiled it 5,000 years ago. Mr. Ved Prakash says his ancestors had handed over the useless portions of the manuscript to Pt. Des Raj.



He explained how a portion of the Samhita became unusable. According to myth, Bhrgu had misbehaved with Visnu inviting a curse from the goddess Laxmi that his voluminous Samhita would lose its mystical value. But later, Visnu overturned the curse and assured the sage that his writings henceforth would be unaffected.



But Bhrgu's work before and after the curse got mixed up. Mr. Ved Prakash says his ancestors identified some of the doubtful portions and passed it on. The myth of the curse is also useful to pacify clients who complain that the predictions are not true.



Asked who their clients are the stock-reply is, "Who's not?" The list comprises national leaders, including Indira Gandhi, Charan Singh, S.K. Patil and Mr Zail Singh, film stars such as Hema Malini and Dharmendra, Sanjay Dutt and Mithun Chakravorty; or singer Mehandi Hassan of Pakistan or author Amrita Pritam of Punjab. The soothsayers say that Bhindranwale and some terrorists, too, had sought readings from them.



Scholars, of course, contest the claims of the astrologers. Dr. Jai Narain Sharma, a professor of Vedic studies at Punjab University , says family details are obtained from either the client or another source. The secret of their success is that they have a huge collection of horoscopes based on different celestial configurations.



NEXT VISIT: Dr Sharma says that a client is not given a reading on his first visit. Before his next appointment they try and locate a horoscope from their collections most in keeping with what is known. If something suitable is not available, the plea taken is that less than 20% of the entire volume is now extant. And if the predictions are wrong there are always the "apocryphal portions," says Dr. Sharma.



Dr Sharma also says that scholars have not been permitted to examine the the manuscript. Only family members can have access. The girls employed to trace the horoscopes only handle the index, says Mr Ram Kumar. He refused to show this correspondent the entire 40-maund or even its picture. All he displayed were some pages in polythene envelopes.



But there is no gainsaying that these families have flourished. "We earn a lot, though the monthly amount varies," says Mrs Janardan. This is true of all the soothsayers and their palatial houses confirm it.



There is only one practicing astrologer in each family, while the rest add to the family fortunes in other ways. One couple resides in the U.S. where they own a department store.



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This article certainly hints that these 'astrologers' have an unsavory air about them brought on by greed and cheating. The correspondent is no doubt a skeptic but he seems to be forced to tone down his skepticism because of the fact that the Bhrgu Samhita is very popular with competent people in positions of power. Still it is a warning to astrologers not to be driven by greed--one of the three paths to hell, along with lust and anger.